Pamberi pezvitsva IT, Chitarisiko chaTim Curry ndicho chakazivikanwa nevanhu saPennywise chisekechedzo chekuchinja, chakagadzirwa nehunyanzvi hwekuita Bart Mixon. Kubva nhepfenyuro yeTV yakatanga muna 1990, yakawedzera mukurumbira uye inoramba ichirova kutya kwevapambi mumoyo yeAmerica. 

Mixon anga aine basa refu kubva Robocop kune rimwe basa richangoburwa mu Guardians ari Galaxy mafirimu. iHorror yakasvika kutaura naye pabasa rake achisimudzira documentary kuma1990s IT maakabvunzurudzwa nezve kugadzira pennywise uye nekupa BTS tsoka, Pennywise: Nyaya yeIT. 

Mubvunzurudzo iyi, Mixon anotaura chiitiko chake apo IT yakanga ichigadzirwa, mafungire aanofunga kuti yaifanira kunge yakapera uye aanofarira Pennywise zviito zvekuita. Uye kana iwe uri fan of the 1990s IT, chengeta chinyorwa ichi pa radar yako. 

Bri Spieldenner: Ndanga ndiri mutsigiri mukuru wehupenyu hwangu hwese hwekuita maitiro. Saka zvinoshamisa kutaura kune mumwe munhu ane nhoroondo yakakura kudaro mairi. Sezvawaitaura kare, zvinofadza chaizvo kuti Pennywise akafanana nemwana wako.

Bart Mixon: Mumwe munhu akaita saStan Winston zviri pachena kuti ane nhoroondo yakapfuma yeakawanda mavara anotonhorera. Saka, sezvandinoudza Rick Baker, zvakanaka kuva neimwe. Uye ndinofungidzira Pennywise ndiye wangu. Ndazora akawanda anotonhorera makeup; Ndakashanda pane yepakutanga Robocop uye Hellboy nezvinhu zvakadaro. Asi iwo akagadzirwa nemamwe maartist uye ini ndanga ndichinyorera, asi Pennywise aive wangu kubva pakutanga. Ndakachiveza, ndikachigadzira, saka kubva pakutanga kusvika kumagumo ini ndaive nemhosva kune zvese zvinokonzerwa nezvisikwa pairi. 

Uye kunyanya, pamwe neudyire ndaive senge, kwete, ndiri kuita iyo makeup. Kunyangwe ndaiva neboka guru, iwe wakangonaka sevashandi vako. Uye zvechokwadi ndaive nechikwata chakanakisa pane icho chine ngano dzeindasitiri saNorman Cabrera naAaron Sims naJoey Orosco naBrent Baker naJim McLaughlin.

BS: Chii chawainyanya kufarira pakugadzira pennywise?

WB: Ah, Tim Curry. Iyo inogona kunge iri nguva yekutanga yandakanga ndiine hunhu, kunyangwe ndakashanda naye saPeter Weller zvisati zvaitika, ndakaita bhaisikopo naShelley Winters pakati pe'80s. Between muzvinambiri uye Dombo Rinotyisa,ndainge ndangove fani. Chokwadi paive nekakuvhunduka sezvaunoziva, ndinovimba handisi kubhowekana. 

Ndinotenda zvikuru kuti taifanira kuita bhatiri asidhi kutaridzika, nekuti takapotsa tisina kuzviita. Ndinoreva kuti, ndakaiveza, ndikaenda nayo kuCanada kunopfura nayo asi takabva tapera nguva. Uye vakasarudza kungopfura chiitiko ichi muchimiro chake chemazuva ese. Muchokwadi, ini ndaifanira kuvaka 18-inch stop motion puppet painodzika pasi pemvura yatakaveza kuti iite sePennywise wenguva dzose. Uye chaizvo zuva randakanga ndichigadzira dombo pairi uye ndakatora hafu yepamberi mupurasita, Jean Warren aitarisira maratidziro akati tiri kuita reshoots, uye isu tichashandisa yako bhatiri acid. tarisa. 

Ndakanga ndatoita kumberi kwechinhu chacho muplaster saka pandakangomhanya mbichana, ndaifanira kutora kalife cast ndogadzira kamudziyo kekunamira pairi uye kugadzira makeup yemufananidzo pachikero chitanhatu ichi kana kota. nhanhatu, iyi diki Tim Curry. Asi Tim, kune mbiri yake, akazvipira kupfeka makeup. Akanga aona zvidimbu kuCanada uye akarumbidza zvikuru nezvazvo. Kwaingove kurota asi ndofunga chandaifarira che makeup iya yaive acid yebhatiri.

BS: Ndinofunga kuti inoshanda chaizvo, iyo kutaridzika kunotyisa kwazvo.

WB: Nehurombo iyo bhaisikopo remhando yefizzles kamwe chete Tim aenda uye handifunge kuti imhosva yaTommy nevatauri venyaya, ingori Tim aivepo akasimba kudaro uye ndaifunga kuti takavaka spider inotonhorera asi iwe uchiri kurasikirwa naTim Curry mune izvo. maminitsi makumi maviri apfuura. Uye saka ndinofungidzira vakambokuvadza mhungu iyi ichibva yadzungaira, pavakamudzingirira pasi dai akanga adzoserwa kuPennywise panguva iyoyo, uye vakabva vamuuraya. Ndinofunga kuti kungadai kwakave kuguma kunogutsa, asi handifungi kuti terevhizheni yemakore ekuma20 ingadai yakabvumira vanhu vakuru vatatu kana vana kuti varove shit kubva kumutambo wepaTV uye kubvarura mwoyo wake.

Zvese zvatakaita pashow iyoyo zvaive zvakafanoongororwa maererano nemusoro wakachekwa mufiriji, haugone kuve nenyama yakarembera kunze kwayo. Saka, handizivi kuti macensor angadai akatitendera. Zvakare, iyi yaive 1990s TV. Ndizvo izvo vanhu vanondibvunza nezve itsva uye iri R-yakatemerwa firimu muna 2017. Munoziva? Saka hongu, ivo vanga vasingashande pasi pemiganho yataive.

BS: Kunyangwe ndaizotaura kubva mumaonero angu, ini pachangu ndinofarira kutaridzika kweyepakutanga nekuti ine mamwe manzwire akashata kwairi, uye rudzi rwechokwadi. Ini ndanga ndichinetseka kana iwe uine chero maonero pamusoro peiyo prosthetic inotarisa itsva IT bhaisikopo.

WB: Ndinofunga kuti basa ririmo rakanaka chose. Kutora kwakasiyana. Ndakafunga kuti zvaisetsa, ndakadaro Varume muGlack 3 pamwe naJemaine Clement. Ndakagadzira yake Boris the Animal makeup yaRick Baker, saka Jemaine neni tichiri shamwari. Saka pavakaburitsa mufananidzo wekutanga kubva kune mutsva IT, akaita sekuti “Waona here chitarisiko chitsva chePennywise? Vakangokopa yako chete." Uye ini ndakaita senge, zvakanaka, kune hunhu hwakafanana nekuti ndeye clown. Uye ndinoreva kuti, vhudzi rake rakaita tsvuku tsvuku uye rangu rakatsvuka sebozo. 

Kubva pane imwe nyaya, kana ndiine dambudziko nekugadzira, iyi inhema yekuti ari kufungidzira kukwezva vana mune itsva. IT. Ini ndinofunga kuti inotonhorera uye ndinofunga inotaridzika zvakanaka, asi hapana nzira mugehena kuti mwana asvike mukati memamaira kubva paPennywise, ari kungotyisa, kunze kwegedhi. Uye yangu, ndanga ndichiedza kuita kuti itaridzike senge isina kukuvadza uye ndorega kuita kwaTim Curry kuchiwedzera. 

Chimwe chinhu chandaida kuita icho naTommy takanga tisina kuonana nacho, vana pavakamuona anenge ari Pennywise watinoziva uye watinoda, asi kana vakuru vakamuona, aitove chikara chinotyisa. izvo. Saka chingave chimwe chinhu chinowirirana nePennywise itsva nemakatsemuka. Kunenge kwaora nezvimwe zvakadaro. Sezvakaita senge iyo bhatiri acid yaitaridzika asi zvese zvapera, nekuti kungoita nyaya-yakangwara panguva iyoyo vanhu vakuru vanoziva kuti haasi munhu anoita zvekutamba, uye inoziva kuti vanoziva kuti haasi munhu anoita zvekutamba. Saka zvaiita sekunge hapasisina chinangwa chekuchengetedza kunyepedzera zvakare. Uye nekuve iyo inenge zombie-fied caricature ye clown. Tommy aisazviona saizvozvo. 

Ndinofunga pamwe muchidimbu, Tim aisada kupfeka zvakawanda zvekuzora. Saka izvo zvaizoda huwandu hwakaringana hwehurongwa hwekuti ave mune inorema makeup. Hachisi chinhu chakaipa. Asi iyo itsva iri kutyisa uye kutyisa zvakanyanya ndeye kwandanga ndichiedza kuitora kune vanhu vakuru, munoziva, saka handikwanise kuvapa mhosva nekuda kweizvozvo. Ndinongofunga muzviitiko paanenge achibata nevana, anongoratidza kutyisa.

BS: Ndiyo pfungwa yakanaka. Handina kumbofunga nezvazvo. Iwe une waunofarira Pennywise chiito chimiro?

WB: Zvose zvinosvika. Ndofunga vakabuda nembiri idzi.

BS: Hoo, zvakanakisa.

WB: Ndakamirira makore 30 kuti vabude nezvinhu zvinotonhorera zvePennywise nehembe. Ndinoreva, ndinopinda muWalmart izvozvi uye vane Pennywise T-shirts.

BS: Iwe unofunga kuti mazuvano vanhu vanyanya kupinda mukirasi IT pane zvavaive payakabuda?

WB: Zvinoita sezvizvi. Ndinoreva, kwaive kurova kukuru. Asi zvakare, ndakanga ndisiri kuona zvekutengesa nezvimwe zvakadaro. Uye zvakare, ndinofunga kuburitswa kwefirimu ra2017 sezvavaitengesa iyo vhezheni, ndinofunga ivo vakaita senge, ngatibvise guruva rekare uye tiite zvinhu kubva ipapo zvakare. Asi zvinotonhorera kungopinda muzvitoro kana magungano uye zvinhu izvo zvimwe zvaive zvakanyanya kutonhorera pakabuda bhaisikopo muna 1990. Ndaienda kuchitoro chemabhuku uye ivo vakaburitsa zvakare. IT uye nepepa rekugadzira neTim Curry makeup pabutiro. Yaingove madziro makuru aya ekuzora kwangu.

BS: Ungati Pennywise ndiye akanakisa kana chinhu chaunofarira chawakamboshanda pachiri? Kana kuti une zvaunofarira zvinoshanda zvawakaita mubasa rako here?

WB: Zvakanaka, ndichifunga kumashure, ndashanda pane zvakawanda zvinotonhorera. Ndinoreva kuti, Pennywise zvirokwazvo ndeyezvinhu izvo ini pachangu ndakagadzira nekugadzira, zvisina kutariswa. Asi ndakashanda pane yekutanga Robocop, ndakashanda paGuillermo del Toro mbiri Hellboys. Ini ndiri mukuru weMarvel comics fan, saka ndakaitira Paul Bettany hondo yevanhu venyika imwe uye Infinity War. Uye ndakangoshanda Guardians 3, uye ndakaita makeup yaChristian Bale kwemazuva mashoma eiyo nyowani Thor firimu reshoots. Ndakazobatsirana naNebula patsva Thor, Michael Chiklis in the Fantastic Four mabhaisikopo kuitira kuti feni mandiri ishande pane yakawanda inotonhorera bhaketi runyorwa-mhando anoratidza.

BS: Ini ndinofarira mumaonero ako panguva iri pakati peapo maitiro akakosha akatanga kuita zvishoma mumabhaisikopo uye vanhu vakatanga kufamba zvakanyanya vakananga kuCGI. Wakambonzwa izvozvo here?

WB: Ehe, ndinoreva, nekutenda, handina kumira kufamba. Ndinofunga kuti dai ndaiva animator, ndingadai ndakainzwa chaizvo. Pekutanga kwaingove kubhowekana chaiko, haaa mwari tapererwa nebasa. Zvechokwadi, kumira kwekufamba vakomana uye vakomana ve animatronic vakanzwa izvozvo. 

In Varume muBlack 3, Ken Ralston ndiye aive mutariri wezvekuona achishanda naRick Baker. Saka ndiyo yaive imwe yenguva shoma apo dhijitari yakanga isiri kuyedza kuputira pamusoro pevakomana vanoita. Vakanyatsoshanda vakabatana maoko uye saka Rick angaite sekuti, "zvakanaka, ini ndichavaka iyi yegoridhe-yakafanana nemutorwa, asi isu hatisi kuzoisa chero kupenya kweziso mairi. Kana Barry akairatidza kwenguva yakareba zvekuti inoda kunge ichibwaira saka imi varume munogona kuita blink digitally, "uye Ken akadaro zvakanaka. Saka kwaive kubatana kwakanaka. Uye ini ndinofunga chakanakisa cherudzi urwu chinhu kana iwe uine maviri. Pane faun character in Pan's Labyrinth uye Pale Man, izvo zvinotonhorera makeups asi pane digitaalinen zvinhu zvinobatanidzwa sekutora makumbo kunze kana kuita kuti aite zvishoma kuonda kana chero. Nehurombo, kunyanya kumashure pakutanga, munhu wese aingopinza mari yese mudhijitari. Uye saka iwe unenge uine akawanda ezviratidziro anga aine shitty madhijitari maitiro.

BS: Sei iwe uchida kuita kuti chimwe chinhu chinodhura nenzira yakawanda mari iite seyakashata kupfuura yayaimboita?

WB: Chinhu chimwe chete chandisingade nezvezvinhu zvedhijitari, ndechekuti vanhu havafanirwe kuita kuzvipira. Iwe wakagadzira chinhu chimwe chete chawakapfura, saka waifanira kusarudza, uye iwe waifanira kuzvipira kune chimwe chinhu uye kunyangwe ne-makeup effect waifanira kuzvipira kune dhizaini nekuivaka kuitira kuti iwe ugone kuve nayo pane set. Iye zvino nezvinhu zve digital. Iwe uchangowana mukomana ari mukufamba kwekutora pyjamas, uye ipapo iwe unogona kushandura dhizaini kakawanda kusvika iwe wangopererwa nenguva uye zvinhu zvave mutheater. 

Pandakanga ndichishanda hondo yevanhu venyika imwe, tirikurwa airport. Uye yaive nguva yekutanga kuona iyo MCU Spider Man. Sutu yacho yakanga yakasiyana zvachose nezviri mufirimu. Chinhu chimwe chete neBlack Panther, ndinofunga sutu yake yakanga yakafanana, asi iyo stunt yakapetwa kaviri yavakanga vakapfeka yakanga yakasiyana zvachose neChadwick. Saka ese ari maviri aya achangotsiviwa zvachose digitaalinen iyo yekupedzisira kutevedzana uye ingori ivo vaisafanira kuzvipira kugadzira yakakwana Spider Man sutu tisati tatora firimu, nekuti isu tichava negore rekutumira uye taienda. chinja. Pane zvinhu zvinoshamisa zvaunogona kuita nazvo. Pane zvinhu zvausingakwanise kuita nemazvo kana kukusunungura. Uye ndinofunga kuti ingori aesthetics yemutungamiriri. 

Sezvinoda Guillermo del Toro. Akabva ku-makeup effects kumashure saka anofarira kuona ma practicals, kunyangwe achine zvakawanda zvinotonhorera zvedhijitari zvinhu mushow, asi zvirinani ane mwero wakanaka. Paunenge uchiita vatorwa uye zvikara, zviri pachena kuti zvinhu zvedhijitari zvinopa zvinhu, kungoita anatomically iwe unogona kuita zvinhu zvausingakwanise kuita nemusoro wemunhu, asi kana iwe uchiita mavara uye zera makeup uye zvinhu zvakadaro, kana iwe. ndine mutambi anoda kuzviita, saGary Oldman mukati Iro Rima Kwazvo, ipapo unogona kuwana zvimwe zvinhu zvinoshamisa chaizvo. Saka pachine basa guru riri kuitwa.

BS: Ini ndaona chaizvo mumakore gumi apfuura kana zvakadaro, kufarira kwakawanda kwakawedzerwa mukuita maitiro kazhinji kubva pakuona kwe nostalgia. Wakamboona chero mitsva yakakosha maartist aunofunga kuti anoyevedza mazuva ano? 

WB: Zvinoshamisa kuti kune vanhu pasi rose vari kuzviita. Sekuti ndaona itsva Elvis bhaisikopo uye kuti Tom Hanks, Colonel Parker makeup inotonhorera. Kazu wandaishanda naye tichidzokera Iyo Grinch. Akadaro Iro Rima Kwazvo uye Bombshell. Ndakashanda naArjen Tuiten uyo akadaro Wonder, akadaro Maleficent. Akaita zvitsva Ghostbusters. Vincent Van Dyke, anoita zvinhu zvinoshamisa. Kune Mike Marino pamhenderekedzo yekumabvazuva. Akaita zvitsva Kuuya 2 America kubva makore gumi apfuura. Ndaka Sekuru vakashata naSteve Prody uye aive nekodzero yekuve neOscar kusarudzwa kweizvozvo. Uye zvakare, hausisiri mutambo wemukomana zvakare. Kune vakadzi vakawanda vane zvipo vanozviitawo. 

Pane zvakawanda zvezvizvarwa zvakanaka zvichauya. Vazhinji vezera rangu vangave vaenda pamudyandigere kana kuti vari kutarisa kuenda pamudyandigere. Ndanga ndichangodya kudya kwemasikati naRick Baker nhasi uye anga aenda pamudyandigere kwemakore masere uye saka, zvinonyaradza kuziva kuti kune aya masaisai evanhu anouya kumashure kwangu kuzoenderera mberi. 

BS: Iwe une chero mapurojekiti matsva anotonhorera ari kuuya auri kufara nawo? 

WB: Zvakanaka, ndangoshanda kwete chete Guardians of the Galaxy 3, asi iyo yezororo yakakosha iyo ichave kunze kweKisimusi. Ndakangoshanda patsva haunted mansion izvo Disney zviri kuita, izvo zvandinofunga zvinotaridzika zvakanaka. Pane chinhu chaJeffrey Dahmer chiri kuitwa naRyan Murphy mhondi kuti ndakashanda zvishoma. Izvo zvichabuda gore risati rapera. Ndaka Obi-Wan Kenobi, asi izvo zvatobuda uye ndashanda patsva Thor, asi zvabuda izvozvi.

BS: Ndezvipi zvingave zviroto zvako zvakakosha kuita izvo zvausati wava nazvo?

WB: Ndinovimba ndisati ndazvisungirira, ndinoda kuita seMole Man kana chimwe chinhu che Fantastic Four. Kana kuti kana DC ikambosvika pakuita Vanamwari Vatsva, ndingada kuita Jack Kirby chaiyo Darkseid makeup.

Hakuna kuita sechikara. Ah, handina kumbobvira ndaita murume wegill. Dai ndaigona kudaro. Ndakashanda paFreddy mafirimu. Handina kumbozviita NeChishanu iyo 13th. Ini ndanga ndisati ndave murume mukuru Jason zvakadaro, asi ndakaita show yangu yeRob Zombie zvinhu uye chii. Ndakava nebasa rakanaka, rakasiyana-siyana.

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Mixon achiri kushanda muFX makeup inoita kuenderera mberi kukuru kwenhaka yake kwemakumi emakore uye kuti makeup yachinja sei. Hazviite sekunge ari kumira chero nguva nekukasika. Kana iwe uchifarira kunzwa zvakawanda nezve maitiro ake ekugadzira uye kushanda paPennywise kubva ku1990 IT, rambai makatarira Pennywise: Nyaya yeIT.